The Conversation was a special debate between the former Commanding General of the US Army Europe LTG (retired) Ben Hodges and NATO Secretary General (2009-2014) Anders Fogh Rasmussen, moderated by Ali Aslan, Presenter at Deutsche Welle TV. The panel focused on the current state of NATO, with Secretary Rasmussen arguing that after the 2018 NATO Brussels Summit the organization is strong military but weaker politically. Asked about the major challenges for the Transatlantic Alliance General Hodges warned that it was very likely the United States will be at war with China in 15 years.